Test your PC keyboard

Please test yout PC keyboards in ZX emulator. Searches for the appropriate keyboard for real ZX Spectrum / ZX emulator.
This is keyboard tester:
http://velesoft.speccy.cz/other/portdemo.tap
On screen show active keys. You must test all this keys combintions.

Q+P+M
Q+O+M
A+O+M
A+P+M

Q+P+SPACE
Q+O+SPACE
A+O+SPACE
A+P+SPACE

6+8+0
6+9+0
7+8+0
7+9+0

(cursor test)
LEFT+UP+0
LEFT+DOWN+0
RIGHT+UP+0
RIGHT+DOWN+0

1+3+5
1+4+5
2+3+5
2+4+5

Q+E+T
Q+R+T
W+E+T
W+R+T

A+D+G
A+F+G
S+D+G
S+F+G

Z+C+B
Z+V+B
X+C+B
X+V+B

All three pressed keys must by signed on screen. If any of this keys combinations work incorrect(any key is ignored), then your PC keyboard is not useful for using with emulator or connect to real ZX(with PC keyboard interface). Please inform me about error signed combinations and write type of tested PC keyboard.

(my old PC keyboard CHICONY with microswitch key buttons work absolutly perfect with all this combinations :v2_thumb: , only cursor keys+0 is impossible use :mad: )

VELESOFT

MITSUMI CLASSIC KFK-EB9HY
Does no work:
LEFT+UP+0 and RIGHT+UP+0- toggles color on/off
LEFT+DOWN+0 - toggles on 1 5 6 0 CS and V keys
RIGHT+DOWN+0 - -//- 6 8 0 CS X V
1+4+5 and 2+4+5 - only 2 keys works, 4+5+some keys = many zx keys pressed
same with
Q+R+T
W+R+T
A+F+G
S+F+G
Z+V+B
X+V+B
I just love these keyboards =)

Цитата:

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Сообщение от NovaStorm

LEFT+UP+0 and RIGHT+UP+0- toggles color on/off
LEFT+DOWN+0 - toggles on 1 5 6 0 CS and V keys
RIGHT+DOWN+0 - -//- 6 8 0 CS X V

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Это абсолютно нормально (я так понимаю тестровалось в UnrealSpeccy с Matrix=1), так вел бы себя и реал.

GENIUS KWD-820 - same results.

Добавлено через 7 минут
Могу кинуть раскладку одной древней клавы, по ней все сразу видно что не будет работать (как показала серия опытов, при возникновении ситуации описанной в этой теме, PC клава не обрабатывает нажатия клавиш, которые приводят к этой ситуации).

Добавлено через 14 минут
Например: нельзя нажать 3+4+5, 9+4+5, 3+7+6, 9+7+6, ну скажем, D+K+I и так далее...

Цитата:

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Сообщение от molodcov_alex

Например: нельзя нажать 3+4+5, 9+4+5, 3+7+6, 9+7+6, ну скажем, D+K+I и так далее...

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Yes, 3+4+5 is possible use, but I need test all combinations used in game controll (sinclair 1, sinclair 2 etc...)
3+4+5 = down+up+fire -> this key combinations is not used in games.
Is useless test any combinations of reverse directions (up+down or left+right)

SINCLAIR 1 need only this combinations:
6+8+0
6+9+0
7+8+0
7+9+0

SINCLAIR 2 need only this combinations:
1+3+5
1+4+5
2+3+5
2+4+5

QWERT conrol (PSSST game) need only this combinations:
Q+E+T
Q+R+T
W+E+T
W+R+T

QAOPM control need only this combinations:
Q+P+M
Q+O+M
A+O+M
A+P+M

QAOP SPACE control need only this combinations:
Q+P+SPACE
Q+O+SPACE
A+O+SPACE
A+P+SPACE

etc.......

Many modern PC keyboards use same key matrix(membrane layout), but not all !!! USB keyboard for MACINTOSH work without problem, support all this combinations.

VELESOFT

Testing of PC keyboard continue on some other ZX forums. We neew know keyboard running in ZX emulators without problems. I plan also connect LAPTOP keyboard to ZX (this keyboards contain only keys+membrane with contacts - without next electronic, don't need protocol)

Please test your keyboards, I need know PC/laptop keyboards which accept this combinations.

Start this online keyboard ghosting test:
http://www.microsoft.com/appliedscie...explained.mspx

Big parts of PC keyboards have problem with this combinations: (please test all combinations and release result + model of keyboard)

Q+P+M , Q+O+M , A+O+M , A+P+M

Q+P+SPACE , Q+O+SPACE , A+O+SPACE , A+P+SPACE

Upper numeric keys : 1+3+5 , 1+4+5 , 2+3+5 , 2+4+5

Upper numeric keys : 6+8+0 , 6+9+0 , 7+8+0 , 7+9+0

( cursor keys + upper numeric key "0" ):
LEFT+UP+0 , LEFT+DOWN+0 , RIGHT+UP+0 , RIGHT+DOWN+0

Q+E+T , Q+R+T , W+E+T , W+R+T


You can reply also here:
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/forums/showthread.php?p=737858#post737858

for my acer laptop have the following ghosting for:
Upper numeric keys : 1+3+5 , 2+3+5 , 2+4+5
and
Q+R+T, W+R+T

Laptop keyboards TOSHIBA SATELLITE use very good membrane matrix and is possible press three keys in ZX games. More info here:

http://zx.pk.ru/showthread.php?t=23033