Эмуляторы отечественных компьютеров

[nzeemin]

If any of you is interested in contribution to MESS please just contact me.

Working on MESS (and MAME) for more then 3 years now, and did some structural changes there so I am aware of how it works, so if there are some questions that I can help please let me know.

Also I did addition of some old Russian computers but they still need improvements, I am not so good at reading Russian language,so that is biggest problem so far

That's interesting.
Can you point me to some introducing tutorials about MAME/MESS development? I use Windows and has some experience with cygwin, if it's matter.

Also, what can you say about emulation state of Russian/Soviet machines in MESS?
I see bk and uknc drivers in the MESS repository, and according to the wiki bk works fine (as bk0010/bk001001 with t11 CPU), but uknc doesn't work.
http://mess.redump.net/mess:drivers:bk
http://mess.redump.net/systems:uknc

I think, I can help with uknc driver in MESS -- maybe even with coding.

[micko]

Well I suggest next.

1. Download http://mamedev.org/downloader.php?fi...e-20100102.exe from http://mamedev.org/tools/ page
2. Use tortoisesvn to download code from svn://messdev.no-ip.org/mess/

3. Compile
(if you have 64 env here is example)

set path=c:\mingw\mingw64-w64\bin
make TARGET=mess SYMBOLS=1 DEBUG=1 -j6

you can change location to 32bit tools if needed or you have 32bit system
set path=c:\mingw\mingw64-w32\bin

4. To collect roms you can easy find them over net (on popular torrent sites there are always full collections). But for Russian machines think there will be no issues, since most I took from this site

5. MESS have integrated debugger, yuo can enable it using menus or if started with commandline use -debug param.

Good thing is that SDL build is part of MESS/MAME so you do not have compatibility issue.
I did BK driver time ago, and it is working fine, even loads from tape (WAV files) but did not had time to add disk support, since I was willing to do it same as you did in your emulator.
UKNC is just skeleton driver so nothing is there, it just load rom and that is it.

To learn about MESS/MAME it is best to take some (existing skeleton driver) and try to improve it, and if you know some other machine have similar/same hardware then you take a look how it is implemented there and go step by step.

It is also good practice that if there is some working "driver" that you are aware of (some machine you know about) then you can see how things are mapped and use it in other places.

For sure it takes a time to get into how it all works, but at the end you will see that it is quite flexible and some things are there out-of-box so it is easy to do some machines at least.
Also if there are questions, you can asked them here or at : http://www.bannister.org/forums/ubbt...Board=1&page=1 forum.


Guess this is enough for begining.

[micko]

Just to update that location for forum is now : http://forums.bannister.org/ubbthrea...Board=1&page=1

Also if there are some questions please let me know and I will see to answer shortly.

[Valeriy]

b2m, Может ткнёте пальцем на пару-тройку каких-нибудь открытых проектов. Оно то на конкретных примерах учиться нагляднее.

Эмулятор Радио РК-86 на Дельфи

http://musson.zbord.ru/viewtopic.php?t=77

[NEO SPECTRUMAN]

А никто не подскажет где взять эмулятор Электроника-60 и тетрис к нему?

[Patron]

А никто не подскажет где взять эмулятор Электроника-60 и тетрис к нему?

В приложении - мой недоделанный "эмулятор ДВК" с несколькими игрушками на системном диске, включая Тетрис.

[hobot]

Patron, здесь кроме "ТЕТРИСА" есть какие-то существенные изменения в самом эмуляторе или диске системном (после 1917 сборки-апдейта) ?

[Patron]

здесь кроме "ТЕТРИСА" есть какие-то существенные изменения в самом эмуляторе или диске системном (после 1917 сборки-апдейта) ?

19-17 - это время ( полностью "версия" сборки определяется датой и временем ).

...

Для обычной работы только одно изменение - нужно найти во всех *.cfg файлах от старых версий строчки:

Config + Timer_Button + CPU
Config + HALT_Button  + CPU

и заменить их на

Config + Timer_Button + bus
Config + HALT_Button  + bus

...

Кстати, похоже, что этот Тетрис - тот самый первый Тетрис для Электроники-60. Дело в том, что при точной эмуляции быстродействия 1801ВМ1 - он идёт примерно в 1.5 раза быстрее, чем надо (т.е. на медленном процессоре Э-60 он должен идти с правильной скоростью).

Если выставить быстродействие 0.125 .. 0.150 MIPS - всё приходит в норму.

[hobot]

что то у меня с последним архивом проблемы (((
отказывается запускаться... то есть после запуска эмуляции просит закрыться(свернуться)

[Titus]

У меня так же вешается.